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Leaked New England Shirt - Not genuine says Umbro

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Daily Mail reports: 
"Nike's big plan to keep the look of the new England home shirt - supplied by their subsidiary company Umbro - under wraps until revealed when the players take off their tracksuits before the Wembley game against Slovakia on March 28 may have come unstuck.

Alleged pictures of the £50 shirts have been leaked to a website specialising in football kit culture, but Umbro claim they are not genuine.


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-1 # roger 2009-02-16 12:18
Thank you God.
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-1 # pachyderm 2009-02-16 12:43
LOL!! They found out they were ugly and have changed their minds...

Umbro is part of NIke?
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-1 # 2009-02-16 12:59
Looks like a training shirt.
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0 # 2009-02-16 13:13
Maybe Umbro leaked the images to see the reaction of the public and when they saw many people hated it, started to say its fake...


Or its not fake and they\'re trying to despiste us...
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0 # 2009-02-16 13:21
Back to the drawing board for Umbro. It\'s not too late yet.
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0 # 2009-02-16 13:26
Even if it is a training shirt, it is still hideous
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0 # 2009-02-16 13:54
thank fudge for tht.

embarassment averted :whistle:
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0 # Jay29ers 2009-02-16 13:59
Imagine if the real one is EVEN WORSE!
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0 # 2009-02-16 14:05
It\'s due for release April 1st - April fools day...
perhaps this is one..?
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+1 # jamie2009 2009-02-16 14:09
I hated it at first, but it was kinda growing on me, at least it was different, it was about time we played in red and white, theres never been blue in the england flag anyway
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0 # 2009-02-16 14:43
Tell us something that the people with commonsense didn\'t know.
And can people STOP saying that we should have just red trim on our shirts rather than blue, we\'ve had mostly blue than red on our shirts for god knows how long and there our colours! Congratulations for noticing that there isn\'t any blue on the St George\'s Cross but there still our colours.
Japan don\'t have any blue on there flag but the magority kit is blue.
Italy don\'t have any blue on there flag but there kit is mostly blue.
Holland don\'t have any orange on there flag but they have had orange as there shirt colours since god knows when.
So just because we haven\'t got any blue on our flag doesn\'t mean we should get rid of it after we\'ve had it on our shirts since almost the beginning. Lets go promote British Racing Green just to piss the people saying \"we don\'t have any blue on our flag so we shouldn\'t have it on our shirts\", now that would just be glorious!
You people just know how to push my buttons! oooff!!
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0 # 2009-02-16 18:18
It\'s worth remembering that up until the 1970s, England (and the other home nations) competed under the Union Jack. Therefore, blue in the kid did correspond to the flag they were competing under. From that point until about Euro 96 England fans were as likely to wave the UJ as they were the St. George\'s Cross, then from that point on the SGC became the dominant banner to the point UJ\'s at England games are now a rarity.
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0 # 2009-02-16 14:49
im so glad it isnt genuine. i nearly puked at the thought of this shirt!
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0 # 2009-02-16 15:27
So does this mean they will have the nike logo after all? fingers crossed. That would look so damn good, an England shirt made by nike with a world cup winners star above the crest B)
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0 # jamie2009 2009-02-16 15:53
calm down lu3y, i was just saying it would make a change just to have the red and white rather than the blue as well, a george cross kit,
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0 # 2009-02-16 16:16
Thats the reason we\'ve been having crap kits in the first place.
Since they got the idea of putting the cross on the shirt they couldn\'t use it again without making it look exactly the same or making it look even worse and from then they have kept putting more and more red on it and the shirts has been getting worse ever since.
We need to go back to what we use to be rather than making something we aren\'t.
Its just getting to fussy now and thats the reason no ones liking what they design and produce.
Reduce the amount of red and just use it subtly without going over the top.
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0 # 2009-02-16 16:31
changed their mind uh

back to the drawing boards
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0 # 2009-02-16 17:18
well whoever made this fake kit did a pretty good job in terms detail as far as i can see it looks as if it is a genuine umbro kit
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0 # 2009-02-16 18:02
God this shirt is bad, even if it is fake u have to think it was a umbro idea, theres no features the umbro and england badge are all in the same place + the red sleeve thats all, :s
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0 # 2009-02-16 18:27
Now that Umbro have said definitively this is not the kit, there are only 3 possibilities as to what this actually is:

1) Training shirt: fairly plausible, although if it was you would expect the Nationwide Building Society logo on there.
2) Design that was considered viable enough to get off the drawing board and have a prototype made, but subsequently passed over: I don\'t know how many designs on average per launch get prototypes, so I can\'t really gauge the plausibility here.
3) This was given the go-ahead, to be the 2009-11 kit, but negative reaction has forced plan B: not really plausible, as then the publicity campaign would need to be redone from scratch and that could lead to a delay of the launch and as FSC has already detailed, that happened with the current away to some embarrassment.

One way or another there is so much detail in this kit, not least of all with the QR-code (that\'s the box of random pixels) that leads to a genuine Umbro website, this must one way or another have passed through Umbro\'s hands. Were it a complete bootleg, there would have inevitably been some mention of tracking down the copyright violator and taking legal action to protect their trademarks.

God this is like \"who shot JFK?\"
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0 # Feyeno0rd 2009-02-16 20:22
At least it isn\'t point 1; Umbro would never try to put so much effort and detail in a trainingsshirt (but they don\'t put effort in most matchworn kits either) :whistle:
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0 # 2009-02-16 19:04
Might have looked a bit better if they modelled it on someone without man breasts!
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0 # 2009-02-16 21:25
Why? It\'ll be mostly worn by people with Moobs!!
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0 # 2009-02-17 01:29
Gotta say that I didnt realize so many people hated the kit, and now judging it more, I dont like it either, its too plain. I have a design that would be so smart. I liked Inters away kit coz the shirt was white and had a Red cross through it, not saying that our should look identical, but we got to support our true colors and our St Georges flag more in the design. England Forever 1966 Pride.
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0 # 2009-02-18 00:57
here here! well said dave!
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0 # 2009-02-17 04:27
i bet it was real and they leaked it to see what the feedback would be - as the feedback was like 95% anti i guess there now going mad having a different shirt made, they got a month to have them made - enough time in these days
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0 # 2009-02-17 11:17
Our true colours are WHITE, NAVY and a LITTLE RED!
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0 # 2009-02-17 11:32
When a new shirt is produced there are always a stack of prototypes to see how the shirt fits together; it is not an exact science.
Very often various fabrics are used to see which works best and, very often, the fabrics are not in the colours that will be used.
More than likely, the shirt that was \'leaked\' was made using the finalised cutting pattern, but was not put together using the finalised fabrics.
I do not know for certain if the is the case, but I do know that this is standard procedure when developing a new shirt.
Sorry if that was a bit dull, I just thought some people might be interested.
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0 # 2009-02-17 12:16
How often have we heard claims by kit manufacturers that leaked kits were supposedly fake only to then later on find out that these were the real ones after all? Of course Umbro weren\'t gonna come out and say \"oh my, you got us, this is the real one, guess we\'ll just have to cancel the official launch now\".
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0 # 2009-02-17 13:02
Or its just a leaked version of a prototype? possible don\'t you think Franz?!
Not everything on here is true you know.
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0 # 2009-02-17 17:41
Hi LU3Y
It is nice to see someone who seems to know what they are talking about and who is prepared to be honest, without saying something super-witty like \'This kit is s**t.
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0 # 2009-02-17 14:14
That is the worst shirt ever designed who designed it a BLIND MAN?
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0 # 2009-02-17 18:06
I would also like to say you are one of the few people that actually make some sort of sense and produce a constructive comment. With the usual lot that leave comments on here thats hard to find.
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0 # 2009-02-18 00:54
im really writing bc lu3y\'s comments concerning the \"true\" colour of the kits sorta annoyed me.

ok the kit is god awful and do agree that it is most likly was a possibilty and some stage but nothing more than that.

but your arguement that we must stick to having the some colour scheme in all our kits is a little silly dont you think? why not have the change and revert to more red than navy? those really are OUR colours, they are the colours that represnt our nation much like the rugby team wear, is it really relevent that holland wear orange? i mean argentina wear blue and white, mexico wear green white and red? anyhow, the point im slowly getting to, is we should embrace chance, we hardly excell in white and navy, lets give red more of a chance!
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0 # 2009-02-18 08:29
Told you.
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0 # 2009-02-18 11:49
Thank christ for that!
Still turn out to be shit though if umbro have anything to do with it. Sign up with kappa and have done with it
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0 # 2009-02-18 12:51
Well thats basically saying why don\'t Arsenal change to mostly white just because there not doing so well.....not going to happen!
At the end of the day white, blue and red are our colours and just like every team in the world they use there own colours in some form on there shirts because believe it or not thats there colours.
I tell you what lets add a bit of purple or maybe green because there likely to be on the crown jules!!
Having just red on the shirt wont magically make the team win competitions.
Just because the team aren\'t winning anything in white, blue and red doesn\'t give enough reason to get rid of the colours we have been using for many many years, its still going to be the same team playing in it at the end of the day.
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0 # 2009-02-18 14:00
This kit looks SHIT :angry:

umbro have been a secord tier kit designer for ages, ever since man u dropped them!

get nike or adidas on it, they\'ll do the job and give us a kit that we can be proud of as a nation, sell it at a reasonable price and see the fanbase grow =]
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0 # 2009-02-18 15:06
why not burberry?
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0 # 2009-02-18 15:25
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why not burberry?
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0 # 2009-02-18 16:28
Because Burberry is commonly linked with the scum of this Earth....Chavs!
Even Burberry stopped making that pattern because they didn\'t want to be constantly linked with them things.
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0 # 2009-02-18 17:05
yes with the burberry knight on the kit.
ps. chavs dont have the money to buy burberry clothing.
if its not stolen its fake.
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0 # 2009-02-18 17:09
Well of cause its not real Burberry!! and of cause they don\'t have the real Burberry brand and there not clever enough to steal it either, just the fake stuff will do for them!
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0 # 2009-02-18 17:37
For a long time Burberry was banned from all the pubs in Cardiff because the Cardiff City hooligans adopted it as their \'official uniform\'...Tossers.
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0 # 2009-02-18 17:36
lol anyway
back to this new rubbish kit.
to be honest what i like about this kit is the white colour and the three lions emblem on the heart.
but the collar and the sleeves really look like the kit of an eastern eurpean national team back in the 80\'s.
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0 # 2009-02-18 17:55
I no for a fact that this is 100% real, nike/umbro are just pretending its not it so they can have the BIG UNVEILING. ps: i dont like the man whos taken over my job.
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0 # 2009-02-18 19:18
what was your job and who has taken it?
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0 # 2009-02-18 17:56
Ye la that kit looks well ace la
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0 # 2009-02-19 12:41
Wait A Minute £50!!!!!!!!! I\'d Rather Buy A Decent Pair Of Jeans Or A Shiny Armani Top Than Spend Hard Earnt Money For The Men Who Earn Far To Much Money!!!!!
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0 # 2009-02-19 13:25
purple and green?! my arguement was never to make our home shirt a rainbow shirt, it was mearly to add more red than blue!

i also never said we would become world beaters and win competitions if we change to red it was mearly to give it a chance! what harm could it do for once in englands glitering history to just change things around a bit? why MUST it be always white navy and red? didnt holland mix it up with blue socks once? i know its not exactly the same but its a point none the less.

scotland have mixed it up, they had navy white and red, then went to all navy with a bit of gold and then went back to the navy white and red.

you shouldnt be so against having something different! sometimes its nice to have a bit of a change!
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0 # 2009-02-19 13:52
the red patches on the sleeve are not original if it was the new shirt they would be navy blue , the badge is in the wrong place and there is no blue on the shirt whatsoever.
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0 # 2009-02-19 15:12
seen this shirt in the flesh yesterday with Umbro tags on it the lot

Imported from Thailand so i have been told
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0 # 2009-02-19 15:55
The last few shirts each one has had a little bit more red each time and to be honest each shirt has got worse and worse so obviously its not working out for the best.
I just want a traditional shirt for a change and stop with the over styling and changing of the OUR colours.
I understand people want something different but this is Umbro we\'re talking about and if they hear that then they start doing even worse designs a than there last shirt and retro design are coming back in so im just hoping that they do something more traditional than something totally different that will be over styled or boring.
And i was using the purple and green just to make a point that if we start moving around colours then we might as well change it all together! because just having mostly red will make us look like most of the other teams that wear white and red. Poland, Switzerland, Austria....all have the same colours and by using our normal colours makes us slightly different from everybody.
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0 # 2009-02-19 21:06
Not real.

As for Umbro redesigning it because of negative reaction on this site?

Get a grip you deluded idiots,
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0 # 2009-02-20 02:58
all fair points! cheers for the discussion! i wonder how it will turn out in the end, your right red is creaping in more in the shirts, maybe they will go back to the 70\'s or 80\'s kit, i forget when it was with the navy and red band across the top? best of both worlds then!

anyhow cheers lu3e!
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0 # 2009-02-20 12:21
That design would be pretty good i have to say.
That is what i am talking about, something different but retro that will be different from all the other shirts out there.
I just hate Umbro\'s over styling by adding ridiculous patterned materials that look like they have been cut out by a blind person and then sewn together overlapping each other with a pointless barcode thing they seem to think is good at the bottom of the shirt!
Cheers to you as well DanWally, its a rare thing finding someone to talk about things that are posted on here without people getting stupid arguements about nothing about the actual point.
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0 # 2009-02-20 17:41
THAT KIT IS RUBBISH !!!!!!!!!!!! LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THEM ENGLAND SHIRTS 4 KIDS. LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED BY KIDZ
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0 # 2009-02-20 21:57
Can people stop posting comments like this shirt is the real thing!
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0 # 2009-02-28 01:31
You\'re a censored!!! Get a life!!!
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0 # 2009-02-21 14:58
you tosser just face it is not real so why the f*** are you retards havin this conversation p.s dont bother telling me that im wrong just get on with it
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0 # 2009-02-21 22:57
Well i think the retarded one is you lcfc legend, since you cant censoreding read!
If you had an actual brain cell then you might of been able to read that i put \"Can people STOP posting comments like this shirt is the real thing\"
I know it must be hard for you but try sounding the words out next time you prick.
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0 # 2009-02-22 16:46
Im looking forward to the team wearing this shirt next month, it is the real thing.
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0 # 2009-02-22 20:19
i agree with u ,the stupid lincon fan dont no wat he is talkin about. u r spot on with all ur comments come on leicester we r top of the league !!! come on england soon 2 be 2 times champions of the world !!!
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0 # 2009-02-22 23:27
I HATE THIS SHIRT I DON\'T WANT TO BE SEEN WEARING IT
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0 # 2009-02-23 01:12
Well thank you very much Filbert the fox!!
And good luck to Leicester getting back to top flight football.
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0 # 2009-02-23 06:02
Ahhhh... My eye\'s, my eye\'s !!!. OK, real or not, it\'s a great way of blinding the opposition. Seriously tho, to think, we\'re all ready, to laugh at \"Hawain\" shirt men.
I think LESS is MORE. If we\'re expected to buy these things for casual wear; then they should be of a toned down ( I\'m cool) nature.
Umbro would also benefit by reduced overhead, & keep the price down for us lot. (Although I doubt a price cut would ever happen).
If you realy insist on red & blue, keep the trim colours narrow; maybe even close to each other too. ( Hey presto !!! from distance, this looks like that classy hint of purple, you was after.)
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0 # 2009-02-23 12:40
Haha i was only joking about the purple to prove a point about changing our colours!
I agree with you about keeping the colours to a minimum as well to make the shirt more of a casual wear top so people can wear it when ever instead of the only time you can wear it is if you are doing some form of sport or your a chav and sportswear is the only clothing you have in your wardrobe!
Thats why i wish they\'d design a retro style top so it will be easier to wear.
Fred perry esque blue and red trim around the sleeves would be a good start.
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0 # 2009-02-23 15:55
thank christ thats is the ugliest piece of shit ive ever seen
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0 # 2009-02-23 16:25
Yepp !!! You nailed it ! Totally agree. ( Thin trim Perry )
Given what I\'ve seen they don\'t remember \"Perry\". At the moment, we pay good money for something of limited secular warez.
It\'s impossible to have a bold design that everyone likes. The only acceptable route to take, is to be AGNOSTIC, and so not to polarise opinion. ( But not grey !)

Umbro guy\'s aren\'t very secure in their job, they need to show their working\'s.
They need to show striking kit difference\'s, thinking it will force us into \"Update\" every 2years. Taste is not the criterior.. Money making is !
What they should be thinking is subtle taste = more sales.
And updated in a small subtle way next time too. Because if you ware them more, they get wornout and REPLACED more.

Given the number of folks on this site with general consensus of these kit\'s... What we should be asking is, why aren\'t we doin something to educate these short sighted money men.
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0 # 2009-02-23 16:58
thanks 4 the kind words nd good luck 4 whoeva u support
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0 # 2009-02-24 11:20
I sadly have to admit that i support the mighty WOLVES! but at this moment it time its a bad moment in time to be saying that with the run we\'re having. I just hope we don\'t throw it away like we have done many times before. But thanks for you kind words anyway lol.
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0 # 2009-02-24 17:26
ok the wolves r on a bad form but they wont throw it away. though im a leicester fan we both still hate the cov scum. we\'ll beat them next season 4 u

= the cov scum

gud luk
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0 # 2009-02-24 23:41
I hate to say it but surely there is too much detail on that for it to be a fake. I read that blue pixel code thing linked to a page on the Umbro site too.

Umbro have however very slightly changed their logo (just squashed it up again as it was before they stretched it) http://blog.umbro.com/blogs/2009/02/20/the-umbro-diamond/ which could suggest it is not real...

I\'d rather believe the latter because that shirt really is shit. All I can see with the red & grey stripes is 80\'s bedroom curtains.

I still have a horrible feeling that when the players dramatically throw off their warp up tops before the next game, its going to be that monstrosity, and the nation will collectively cringe.
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0 # 2009-02-27 16:39
Let\'s tell em wot we all think.
Prevention is better than cure !
Have your say here:
http://www.umbro.com/
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0 # 2009-02-27 18:48
Bring back the admiral 1982 world cup kit !
. . . now that was a kit!
sod nike, adidas, umbro etc
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0 # 2009-02-28 01:25
This is blatently a training kit.
Theres nothing about it that looks like a full kit.....thank god!!!
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0 # 2009-02-28 16:26
Who\'s this Lucy?
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0 # 2009-02-28 16:29
and by the way this shirt is NOT the new censoreding England home shirt you thick censoredist prick.
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0 # 2009-03-02 20:24
What a load of SH-IT :angry: :angry:
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0 # 2009-03-03 18:09
Yes it is, what do you no, go put your apron on and bake me some cakes.
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0 # 2009-03-04 14:20
This kit is proper pony. Nuff said.
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0 # 2009-03-04 15:59
Well considering Im a male and the 3 is meant to represent an E which spells out LUEY maybe you should get some creative brain cells as well as some censoreding common sense you censored and then maybe you will realise that this isn\'t the real thing and that its just a fake to get thick censoreds like you to believe that it is the real one. And if i did bake you some cakes i would make sure to put some cyanide in them for you.
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0 # 2009-03-04 19:28
This aint real! there are 3 Lions on the sleeves, in a place reserved for the \"South Africa FIFA World Cup 2010\" Logo! They wouldnt go with silver/grey trim - silver wouldnt match up with the gold star! the only trim colours would be blue/red and possibly gold. Also if you look on the official England site, the umbro badge on the new kit adverts is taller and not as wide - alot like how it was in the \'80s and \'90s. Thats all i have to say about that.
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0 # 2009-03-04 21:46
As well as the new badge has a lighter shade of blue and this shirt has a navy blue which is the old badge so everyone that thinks that this is still the new shirt...SHUSH!
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0 # 2009-03-05 18:58
I just happend to buy the Away portugal shirt today lol, :S (white)

all i have to say is, I actually like it, if i had NIKE logo on it, on right chest then its be rather retro but cool

i agree shud get rid of any Blue, were not Great Britain, were ENGLAND

well have to wait till end of march like then well all find out
still wont buy it, to many chavvy people wear england shirts to go out in Doncaster lol, i mite buy it to play footy in summer though,
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0 # 2009-03-05 20:15
its crap....... nuf sed!!! B)
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0 # 2009-03-06 15:58
that is awaful,

what ever happened to plain white shirt? the red sleeves are tacky and the red lining makes it worse...
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0 # 2009-03-13 17:10
:angry: It Cant Be Real ..

It Hasnt Got The New Crest On ..

Just Saying ...

I Think Its Nice Btw , But The Price Tag Isn\'t
. :Pinch:
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0 # 2009-03-14 20:04
Alrite babe keep ur g-string on, ur stressin ovr a shirt, im guessin ur one of these overweight fat twaz\'s who cant get out of there seat and sit on the web all day n search for kits, youv probably never been to a game. go eat some pies fattie.
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