Team GB Adidas London 2012 Commemorative Shirt

Gareth Bale is modelling the new limited edition Team GB London 2012 adidas shirt.

The limited edition commemorative shirt will be available here in November but will not be worn by the players during the Games.

A British Olympic Association spokesman said Bale was a natural choice to be used in the photograph.

He told the BBC: 'We have maintained all along that Team GB will allow for the consideration, and possible inclusion, of players from any of the Home Nations, so it only makes sense that Gareth would appear in the photo.'

But the Welsh FA are unlikely to be pleased with Bale's decision to wear the top given their opposition to Team GB.

The official team kit will be launched next year.

Thanks to Nek


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Guest
+25 # Guest 2011-10-28 15:50
Superb
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-13 # AlbyLad 2011-10-29 00:11
Quite similar to one I created in the Fantasy Shirt Section...
...Nice shirt just think the wtermarking is a bit too broad...

7/10
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+20 # Guest 2011-10-30 15:03
this looks like body painting
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-24 # Guest 2011-11-02 17:27
WE ALL LOVE LEEDS
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-1 # Guest 2011-11-11 13:42
naw its no
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+6 # Guest 2011-11-04 16:45
Gareth Bale looks like a goat. Chomp chomp.
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+1 # Guest 2011-11-15 04:29
lol...chomp chomp. hilarious!! Still laughing...
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+8 # Guest 2011-11-13 22:08
Imagine just how fast Bale would be without those ears.
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-2 # Guest 2011-11-13 22:46
what team is this and what competition will they be playing in? but the kit is cool
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+2 # Guest 2011-11-13 22:46
omg no 3 stripes! that's what made it look different!
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+32 # Guest 2011-10-28 15:50
no three lines awesome
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+25 # Guest 2011-10-29 10:32
Not allowed under olympic branding/advertising rules
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-8 # Guest 2011-10-31 16:38
Three lions...??! Great shirt - England team plus Bale?
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+8 # Guest 2011-11-01 11:30
Why would there be three lions anyway? This is team Great Britain not england
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+8 # Guest 2011-11-02 07:00
he said LINES, not LIONS... like the 3 stripes adidas puts on the sleeves...
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0 # Guest 2011-11-12 19:37
no he said lions
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+18 # Guest 2011-10-28 15:55
Bale looks like a mannequin in this pic.
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+17 # Guest 2011-10-29 10:33
showing the guns he doesnt have!
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-20 # Guest 2011-10-28 15:57
I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO GB TEAM?? DIDNT WALES,N IRLAND AND SCOTLAND PULL OUT :-|
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-111 # Guest 2011-10-28 15:58
Gareth Bale is a disgrace and should never be allowed to play for Wales ever again.
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+64 # Guest 2011-10-28 16:16
I'm opposed to the boycott by the other home nations so good on Gareth for doing this. This is a fantastic opportunity for the UK to come together as one team for a few weeks and not just 'an English representative XI'. The 'special deal' the remaining home nations have with UEFA/FIFA will not dissolve just because of a joint Olympic team. These ridiculous squabbles are petty and, quite frankly, embarrassing.
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-31 # Guest 2011-10-28 16:28
Quoting Welshandproud:
I'm opposed to the boycott by the other home nations so good on Gareth for doing this. This is a fantastic opportunity for the UK to come together as one team for a few weeks and not just 'an English representative XI'. The 'special deal' the remaining home nations have with UEFA/FIFA will not dissolve just because of a joint Olympic team. These ridiculous squabbles are petty and, quite frankly, embarrassing.

Question - do YOU trust Sepp Blatter and his cronies at FIFA to maintain the agreement of the four home nations to compete as seperate teams in international football?

I tell you, I certainly don't. The fact that Blatter isn't to be trusted at all costs, the fact that many of his cronies, past and present, have advocated the concept of a UK national team, and the fact that FIFA want to disband the IFAB because of the four home nations' presence, is stark enough warning and good reason why the FAW, IFA and SFA are so hotly against Team GB.

The fact that most foreign people think the UK and England are interchangeable terms could well be another reason. The fact the FA were approached before any boycott took place to administer the team is enough proof.

Call yourself Welsh and proud? This could spell the end of the Welsh football team, how would you feel about that?
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+32 # Guest 2011-10-28 16:59
If FIFA were to abolish the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish teams then they will also abolish the English team. Do you seriously think the FA will allow that? That means the end of the Premier League. The end of the FA Cup. It's utter nonsense that FIFA could ever force all 4 nations to play under one banner. Pure scare tactics on the part of a group of cronies who has constantly envied UK football. Don't believe the hype!
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-24 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:37
Quoting Welshandproud:
If FIFA were to abolish the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish teams then they will also abolish the English team. Do you seriously think the FA will allow that? That means the end of the Premier League. The end of the FA Cup. It's utter nonsense that FIFA could ever force all 4 nations to play under one banner. Pure scare tactics on the part of a group of cronies who has constantly envied UK football. Don't believe the hype!

I don't think the FA would be too fussed if the English national team disappeared, in fact they would stand to gain a lot more. The fact that the BOA gave them control of the team speaks volumes.

As with what happened with the DFB when Germany was reunified, the FA would be desginated as the successor governing body, and hence the Premier League and FA Cup would effectively continue, with the only difference of course being that all teams in the UK would be eligible.

It is not utter nonsense that FIFA would never force the home nations to play as the UK. There have been many leaked documents in the past that has suggested the will of many FIFA members for a UK team. There was an incident in the 80's where the Uruguayan FA pushed the issue because they weren't happy at the home nations' influence on the game (mainly through IFAB, of which the home nations have four votes, and FIFA the other four). The issue of IFAB has been a contentious one as FIFA has previously sought full control over the rules of the game. Many of their directives have been defeated in IFAB meetings because the home nations voted against them, causing deadlock.

There isn't hype to believe, this is a very real problem.
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+10 # Guest 2011-10-31 10:07
Just look at your comment ratings Taff. That's surely evidence that you're in the minority here.

There is no 'real problem' - of course the home nations' teams won't be abolished. As Welshandproud rightly says, it's embarrassing.

The DFB is an awful example because the country itself was reunited as a federal republic, and is politically different in structure to the UK. There have been separate home nation FAs throughout the British Union. You think one Olympic games is going to change that?

There are small-minded elements in the Celtic nations, just like there are in England, who will jump at any chance to feel victimised.

Paranoia, there's no other word to describe it.
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+13 # Guest 2011-11-09 13:25
Want your independence but are happy to have teams in the Premier League and Championship? Swansea, Cardiff and Wrexham should be chucked out of the league if that's how the Welsh think
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+43 # Guest 2011-10-28 19:38
Quoting Taff:
Gareth Bale is a disgrace and should never be allowed to play for Wales ever again.

You sir are an ass! :lol:
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-33 # Guest 2011-10-28 20:37
Quoting Bacon Strips and Bacon Strips and Bacon Strips:
You sir are an ass! :lol:

How am I an ass, keyboard warrior? :roll:
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-36 # Guest 2011-10-28 20:38
Quoting Bacon Strips and Bacon Strips and Bacon Strips:
You sir are an ass! :lol:

And anyway, it's spelt A-R-S-E have you know :-* :roll:
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+42 # Donnypool 2011-10-29 13:02
What if he's calling you a donkey?
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+7 # Guest 2011-11-11 20:35
Quoting Taff:
And anyway, it's spelt A-R-S-E have you know :-* :roll:

grammar is irrelevant the message remains the same YOU ARE BOTH AN ARSE AND AN ASS
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+2 # Guest 2011-11-13 14:48
well, Wales don't play too well without him do they?
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-3 # Guest 2011-11-11 13:44
but the question is should he be allowed to dress like a pillok


ps wales are shite
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+2 # Guest 2011-10-28 16:36
I don't really feel any affinity towards a GB team, but the Welsh boys who do decide to play...well you can't really blame their ambition. Never in their lifetimes have they even seen Wales play in an international tournament, let alone had the chance to participate in some form. However, there absolutely needs to be some form of guarantee in writing from FIFA that would ensure the continuation of the Home Nations as separate entities before I would feel totally comfortable.
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0 # Guest 2011-10-28 18:48
Btw I am Welsh, before I get any stick from the other Welsh fans on the site
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-40 # Guest 2011-10-28 16:55
What's better, being a professional footballer playing for your country in a major football competition, or being a professional footballer playing for an enforced sovereign state football team in a two-bit event in a competition that is supposed to showcase AMATEUR sport?

Football hasn't had any place in the Olympics after the 1928 event, because FIFA introduced the World Cup, the pinnacle of any footballer's career. And looking at who Wales have to face in the 2014 World Cup qualifiers, I would say this is possibly our best chance of qualifying in 20 years if they keep playing the way they have been in recent months, and then the likes of Bale, Ramsey, Allen, etc. would be playing on the biggest stage of any footballer's career.

But instead, this has happened. The mere thought of Bale standing to attention to "God Save The Queen" makes me physically sick.

See you all next month for the Wales v Norway game where there promises to be a noisy protest against Team GB and Bale, if he plays (if Speed has sense he won't pick him), will expect a very hot reception.
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+2 # Guest 2011-11-13 14:51
btw... who do you Support my Friend, Cardiff?... Swansea?... Wrexham?... oh yeah, the teams that play in the ENGLISH football Leagues, you know the leagues that supply most of the Welsh national team, if you want you can field players from Airbus, or Rhyl, then you can Qualify for the World Cup, in that place you call a dream.
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-23 # Guest 2011-10-28 16:58
Oh hey! it's the France shirt if they stayed with Adidas :-*
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+26 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:38
Quoting Ognox:
Oh hey! it's the France shirt if they stayed with Adidas :-*

Yeh because the french team would have the british emblem printed on their kit aswell???
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+16 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:01
You lot REALLY need to get a friggin grip, the welsh are quick enough to moan when anybody suggests that all welsh teams should be removed from the "ENGLISH" league but you don't want to be involved in a joint one off tournament !!
Wake up and smell the roast lamb it's the Olympics and when will you lot EVER get into a national tournament ???
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-21 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:17
Roast lamb, how racist eh?

We have been in a major national tournament before, the 1958 World Cup. As I said earlier, we have a good chance of qualifying for the 2014 World Cup, as the rest of the teams in the group are around about the same level. That is what the likes of Bale should think about, not something that is backed to the teeth by the likes of the BBC, Seb Coe and the corporate, Union Rag waving penpushers.

Club football has absolutely nothing to do with this argument (on your logic, what about the English team in the Scottish league, but that would be pedantic), this is about international football and the fact that the status of the home nations is at stake. Even the English would actually lose out, not that some would be too bothered because they still don't know what their flag is.

And I will say it again, football has no merit or right to be in the Olympic games, just like many other PROFESSIONAL sports. BTW I'm sure any Scottish or Northern Irish football fans would also be up in arms if one of their players had posed in this photo shoot.

This isn't just a Welsh issue.
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-11 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:39
And when I say the English would lose out, I am of course referring to their fans. Not the FA, who would stand to gain a lot from this.

Just saying incase anyone thought I was contradicting myself from another of my posts.
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+4 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:53
Nope!!

I'll support Team GB all the way even if no Scottish, Welsh or NI players turn out for the team. And even tho I hate the team with a passion, I wouldnt care if a celtic player posed for the shoot.

Go Team GB!!!
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-1 # Guest 2011-10-29 10:36
Why dont you just sod off? You are boring
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+2 # Guest 2011-11-13 04:34
Wales have got more chance of getting into the world cup than you walking past a female sheep without a hard on. Does it really matter if Bale plays for Team GB? This would be a great chance for players from Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to get some real international limelight. No one has heard of them outside of the UK. What does Wales have going for it other than hill sides and valleys and an abundance of sheep? What do you guys have to be proud of? Yes, I know the English army were mean and cruel to you before, but look what it did for you. Yes, you have to pay tax, but you also have schools now and roads and free hospitals for S.T.S.D's (sexually transmitted sheep disease) And you have one of the strongest currencies in the world. And we were so nice that we have you your own pound coin. The word ungrateful comes to mind. And the culinary genius that is English cooking gave you a great way of cooking sheep. You obviously chose to marinade the animal before it dies with gentleman's relish, but we taught you how to slow cook it and serve it with potatoes, (or leaks if you prefer)

Joking aside, and I know i may have gone a wee bit too far with some of those jokes. let's just watch the games and let's see our boys (from all four countries) shine and they can be proud to wear a gold medal.
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+3 # Guest 2011-11-13 04:41
Quoting Taff:
Roast lamb, how racist eh?

We have been in a major national tournament before, the 1958 World Cup. As I said earlier, we have a good chance of qualifying for the 2014 World Cup, as the rest of the teams in the group are around about the same level. That is what the likes of Bale should think about, not something that is backed to the teeth by the likes of the BBC, Seb Coe and the corporate, Union Rag waving penpushers.

Club football has absolutely nothing to do with this argument (on your logic, what about the English team in the Scottish league, but that would be pedantic), this is about international football and the fact that the status of the home nations is at stake. Even the English would actually lose out, not that some would be too bothered because they still don't know what their flag is.

And I will say it again, football has no merit or right to be in the Olympic games, just like many other PROFESSIONAL sports. BTW I'm sure any Scottish or Northern Irish football fans would also be up in arms if one of their players had posed in this photo shoot.

This isn't just a Welsh issue.


The word racist refers to slander of another race. Or for the lesser intelligent (you Taff) skin color. The word you are looking for would be Zena phobic. The fear or loathing of another nation's people. I didn't realize the weather had gotten hotter in Wales and now the entire population of Wales had evolved. I guess you learn something new every day. I'm sure Taff is learning something new all the time. Like how to tie his shoe laces and table manners.
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+1 # Guest 2011-11-13 14:54
LMFAO. Racist... Welsh school did you well didn't they Taff?
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-9 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:23
F'uck "Team GB", hopefully Bale is the only Uncle Tom that turns out for this charade
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+2 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:29
So what's the difference between welsh, scotish, english and thwe northern irish athletes coming together and football players? As the host of the olympics surely we have to compete in every compition
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-11 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:55
Quoting littlelee-MUFC:
So what's the difference between welsh, scotish, english and thwe northern irish athletes coming together and football players? As the host of the olympics surely we have to compete in every compition

The UK doesn't have to compete in every competition in next year's Olympics from what I can gather. That was something highlighted only last week when the UK formed a handball federation a few years ago and had to satisfy Olympic chiefs that they could field a competitive team, otherwise they wouldn't compete.

Athletics has always been competed as a Great Britain team in all international competitions, with the exception of the Commonwealth Games which is a different entity. There is a UK governing body in athletics, which makes the combined team possible. This does not apply to football, as there is no UK national governing body.
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+5 # Guest 2011-10-29 00:32
Funny how you call me racist but you call yourself Taff !!!
I only ever cheer Britain in the Olympics all other times I am an ENGLISHMAN through and through and want nothing more than complete independence for the lower nations such as yourself and Scotland and the northern Irish contingent !
St George's flag is my banner and I wear my George and the dragon tattoo with pride, but I put petty squabbles aside for the Olympics as it is a prestige tournament that should be retained as a traditional hotbed of severe competition GO TEAM GB !!
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-5 # Guest 2011-10-28 17:49
Team GB Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha what a load of rubbish. :-x
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0 # Guest 2011-10-28 18:00
Don't blame the Welsh for not wanting to be part of it, I wouldn't trust blatter and his cronies either.

However the English leagues should be for English teams, the Scottish leagues for Scottish teams and the Welsh leagues for Welsh teams. Can't understand why this doesn't get sorted out once and for all.
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-2 # Guest 2011-10-28 18:17
They couldn't of chosen a more ugly player.
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-6 # Guest 2011-10-28 18:38
Britain's dead. With every passing election Scotland gets more devolved, gains more control and moves closer to independance. TeamGB is so dated and most Scots will be giving the whole thing a wide bearth. Not a bad top but it represents the past and Bale is out of step with the greater mood of the people.
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-13 # Guest 2011-10-28 18:57
Quoting A Scott:
Britain's dead. With every passing election Scotland gets more devolved, gains more control and moves closer to independance. TeamGB is so dated and most Scots will be giving the whole thing a wide bearth. Not a bad top but it represents the past and Bale is out of step with the greater mood of the people.

Welsh people will be doing exactly the same next summer, even the BOA's decision to play some football matches in Cardiff tries to undermine the FAW's stance. Here's a little sweetner....... no thanks!

Bale is going to get what for next month, even if he decides to do a u-turn and says he WON'T play in the Olympics he will never be forgiven for this stunt. Hopefully the likes of Joe Allen and Aaron Ramsey will see the hostility that this has caused and have second thoughts.

I hope Scotland does get independence, which will open the door for Wales to follow soon after. The UK is dead, we just need to get the shackles off and go our own ways.
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+4 # Guest 2011-10-29 10:29
Goodbye then Taff , and stop speaking English while yore ranting it just proves what a sad little peon you are !!!!
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-4 # Guest 2011-10-28 18:38
Britain's dead. With every passing election Scotland gets more devolved, gains more control and moves closer to independance. TeamGB is so dated and most Scots will be giving the whole thing a wide bearth. Not a bad top but it represents the past and Bale is out of step with the greater mood of the people.
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+3 # Guest 2011-10-30 00:24
speak for yerself mate,i for one will be supporting team GB and i know many more scots who will too.
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+6 # Guest 2011-10-28 18:42
Football has no place at the olympics in my opinion (what summer break?), but as it is there should be a British team LIKE THERE IS FOR EVERY OTHER SPORT AT THE OLYMPICS!
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+5 # Guest 2011-10-28 20:40
Beautiful kit - especially for adidas. I really don't think that the existence of the Home Nations is at threat if we play as GB in the olympics.

But I like the idea of every 4 years there being a GB team...bit like the Lions in rugby happening every 4 years.
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+8 # Guest 2011-10-28 21:07
what a sad paranoid little welsh man you are, taff

so if you get your dream of an independent wales are you a fan of cardiff, swansea, wrexham, newport, merthyr town or colwyn bay, who can fuck off back to the glorified pub league that is the welsh premier league?

a team gb will not lead to disbanding the home nations for one second - the main reason the other nations are against this is they realise how embarrassing it will be to have one or two of their players picked just to make up the numbers, whilst ten english players and gareth bale actually play - i guess a few years ago it would have been ryan giggs if he could be bothered to turn up

and going back to the actual point of this thread the kit is really smart
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-14 # Guest 2011-10-28 21:52
Quoting yuffie is a fucking moron with a small dick:
what a sad paranoid little welsh man you are, taff

so if you get your dream of an independent wales are you a fan of cardiff, swansea, wrexham, newport, merthyr town or colwyn bay, who can censored off back to the glorified pub league that is the welsh premier league?

a team gb will not lead to disbanding the home nations for one second - the main reason the other nations are against this is they realise how embarrassing it will be to have one or two of their players picked just to make up the numbers, whilst ten english players and gareth bale actually play - i guess a few years ago it would have been ryan giggs if he could be bothered to turn up

and going back to the actual point of this thread the kit is really smart

Idiot, enough said!
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+2 # Guest 2011-10-29 10:25
Excellent
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-11 # Guest 2011-10-28 22:08
I hope the Quoting yuffie:
what a sad paranoid little welsh man you are, taff

so if you get your dream of an independent wales are you a fan of cardiff, swansea, wrexham, newport, merthyr town or colwyn bay, who can censored off back to the glorified pub league that is the welsh premier league?

a team gb will not lead to disbanding the home nations for one second - the main reason the other nations are against this is they realise how embarrassing it will be to have one or two of their players picked just to make up the numbers, whilst ten english players and gareth bale actually play - i guess a few years ago it would have been ryan giggs if he could be bothered to turn up

and going back to the actual point of this thread the kit is really smart

Christ we have a right typical uninformed Englishman here don't we?
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+6 # Guest 2011-10-28 21:57
Why has Bale baby oiled up for this photo?
No real footy fan cares about the Olympics - Micky mouse tournament.
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-12 # Guest 2011-10-28 21:59
Gareth is selfish thinking about his own career over a whole nation of following generations who will never be able to play for Wales in the near future.
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+6 # Guest 2011-10-28 22:23
I don't like people calling Bale a disgrace. It's his own Choice, and its not like he's changing his nationality, he'll play a couple of games, We'll get knocked out (Like all British teams) and then go back to Wales. I think he's being incredibly brave while most other Scottish or N. Irish players have pussied out . He just want's to play football, and who doesn't? Who wouldn't want to play football at they Olympics? I agree that team GB won't last for long and for that I am happy, but why bash Bale? Guy just wan't to play footie.

As for the kit, why are they showing a Commemorative shirt? Why not the actual kit? Weird...
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-1 # stevolutionDIED 2011-10-29 01:29
Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland are being pathetic..England are a huge team in world Football Fifa would not touch them, so for god sake in this one off tournament cant we all come together and perhaps share some Glory.
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-4 # stevolutionDIED 2011-10-29 01:29
in other news this shirt is awesome!
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-13 # Guest 2011-10-29 02:27
It's still a pathetic little island.
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+4 # Guest 2011-11-03 15:57
Where are you from then?
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-3 # Guest 2011-10-29 02:50
doesnt look comfortable
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-2 # Guest 2011-10-29 09:31
Nice shirt

Of you look at team gb in a way

If the 4 were to split they would have better chances of qualifying for international tornaments and celtic and rangers will be in a better league

If great Britain were to exist as a team they would have a better chance of winning a tornament than England
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-5 # Guest 2011-10-29 09:45
another well informative comments on history of the uk.

but as a shirt itself i like it
www.maccasports.co.uk
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-2 # Guest 2011-10-29 10:36
It's great! Screw the home nations, they don't win anything anyway as individual nations. A United kingdom league with a United Kindom national team. Pretty sure we would of won the world cup by now if we combined all the talented players from all the home nations!
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-3 # Guest 2011-10-29 11:07
haha would love it if bale never played for wales again.

so this is not the shirt they will play in. so what's the point of it.

when is the actual shirt coming out?

also will it be allowed to have 3 stripes on it?
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0 # Guest 2011-10-29 11:17
A little too tight, can't see the average pie eating, beer drinking fan buying this.

When will these companies learn not to make shirts skin tight? So that the majority of football fans who aren't jacked can wear them without feeling self-concious or at least on the brink of ripping their shirts.
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0 # Guest 2011-10-29 13:15
The red of the kit should not touch the blue, as with the union flag.
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+1 # Guest 2011-10-29 14:52
Fantastic shirt.

Go the Brits!!!!!!!
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+2 # Guest 2011-10-29 19:47
Lol, the Team GB comments on this site are amusing. The kit looks nice, but I am not a fan of these special edition ploys. Kitbag always ends up putting the special edition jerseys in their clearance outlet, it might not be the case for this jersey but thats what mostly happens to them.

Since I am a major England fan, and I love football as a whole, I will definitely be buying a team GB shirt as I want to support the players in whatever competition they compete in. Sure the olympics may be amateur, but support the players who play, dont let petty politics get in the way of football.

As for the whole Sepp Blatter cronies situation, I do agree that they might pull some corrupt tactics if the rest of the FAs step on board with this idea, so just let the players make the decisions if they want to play. The current situation is the ideal one, just leave it alone.
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0 # Guest 2011-10-29 21:12
Check out my muscular forearm. That's from all the p0rn I get through during the summers when all my team mates are away playing in or qualifying for international tournaments.
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+3 # Guest 2011-10-30 14:03
The Welsh should get a grip, Scotland has all the rights to complain... but Wales has been a part of England since the 13th century, has no prestige, no culture that hasn't been recently fabricated and no respect. Cardiff and Swansea (not to mention the ones lower down) can fuck off out the English league if being connected to England is so utterly terrible (Berwick are in the Scottish leagues for logistical reasons, but if you want them out i'm sure it's not gonna make that much of a difference). It's like Celtic wanting to join the English league... you hate the English but when it fits you want to join the football league, get more per capita from the government and vote on English matters in the House of Commons.... NERH
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-7 # Guest 2011-10-31 13:11
Quoting Ter:
The Welsh should get a grip, Scotland has all the rights to complain... but Wales has been a part of England since the 13th century, has no prestige, no culture that hasn't been recently fabricated and no respect. Cardiff and Swansea (not to mention the ones lower down) can censored off out the English league if being connected to England is so utterly terrible (Berwick are in the Scottish leagues for logistical reasons, but if you want them out i'm sure it's not gonna make that much of a difference). It's like Celtic wanting to join the English league... you hate the English but when it fits you want to join the football league, get more per capita from the government and vote on English matters in the House of Commons.... NERH

Wales has NEVER been a part of England

Come to Wales and see how much the English get welcomed. Nobody here likes the English, you steal our water, our coal, our jobs and our holiday homes and live in them for 2 weeks a f*cking year.

THAT IS HOW MUCH WE HATE YOU!
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+6 # Guest 2011-10-31 13:29
You're confusing the English with the English 'elite'. Very small-minded and bigotted of you.

The so-called ruling classes are playing us off each other and we go along with it like mugs. Stop fighting their battles for them and be a human. That goes for both sides.
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+4 # Guest 2011-11-02 13:16
You are such an ignorant spacker.

A lot of English people are struggling to buy ONE house in England, let alone a second home elsewhere, including myself.

There are also a lot of English people who struggle to pay for their water & heating bills, and have also had their jobs taken from them.

How f*****g dare you attribute all those ills to a whole nation of people to suit your own prejudices. When you do that you include me, so you've made it personal.

You're a whimpy little, self-pitying, soulless, unintelligent joke of a person.
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-1 # Guest 2011-11-02 15:36
idiot
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-13 # Guest 2011-10-31 05:02
Red, White and Blue! Love the Union Jack in the middle the most! Should be the Rangers top if we join Adidas! Bale is a sexy bastard! God Save The Queen!
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+6 # Guest 2011-10-31 12:34
Shaking my head. Shame your team is going to the wall. You won't be " the people" much longer :cry:
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+1 # Guest 2011-11-01 09:12
Quoting Hannah1690:
Red, White and Blue! Love the Union Jack in the middle the most! Should be the Rangers top if we join Adidas! Bale is a censoredy bastard! God Save The Queen!


How sad - you Rangers lot are embarrassing, all your 'British' hype is the exact opposite of the Welsh comments on here - but just as bad if not worse. Yes your Scottish, yes your British - your also a football team. Celebrate being Scottish, British whatever you want - but you lot think your the bloody army or something. Your NOT Britian - your PART of it, you think you own red white and blue you daft bugg3rs!

And I am a HUGE Scottish football fan - not of the old firm mind but a fan non-the-less.
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-5 # Guest 2011-10-31 08:58
apart from all the controversy it is actually a nice kit i think. so if i got it in stock would people buy it? or as a rebellion would they shun it?
www.maccasports.co.uk
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0 # Guest 2011-10-31 14:22
My two eurocents (that's right, I'm Italian and not British, so don't stone me for my thoughts).

Controversy: I suggest that the Four Home FAs, FIFA, UEFA and CIO sign a "Football Team GB Memorandum" that would sound more or less (more "less" than "more, I'm not an English-speaking lawmaker :lol: ) like this:
"The Football Home Nations and their national football teams are independent, and their independence must be respected and preserved by UEFA, FIFA and every governing body of football.
The Olympic football team representing the British Olympic Committee may play only in the Olympics-related events. Its appereance to the Games is subject to the qualification for the event of England, Scotland, Wales and/or Northern Ireland.
Other appearances of Team GB are subject to the unanimous approval of the FA, the SFA, the FAW and the IFA [that is, if they agree to play, say, a benefit match, they can]."
This is a draft, eh, try to get the spirit of it: "one, when needed, at Olympia (and, if all the FAs agree, for good causes), four for the aeons to come".
Once it's CARVED ON STONE that the status of the four Teams will NEVER-EVER-EVER be harmed by a Team GB, we all can sleep better at night.
Then again, it's my VHO. Don't hang me for that! :D

Kit: STUNNING. A remark: it would be perfect if every national symbol (e.g. a lion for England, a unicorn for Scotland, a dragon for Wales, a [don't know :-? ] for NI) is depicted. It would remark their football independence even better...
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+4 # Guest 2011-11-01 09:07
Can't be bothered reading all the bickering here - seen a lot of it and have to say Taff and Co - your arguments really don't stand up.

FIFA would be taken to court and lose EVERY TIME if they tried to merge all 4 nations due to this Olympic team.

You just don't like the British thing - well tough, you ARE British. I am English and British and proud of both, I have Scottish blood (Mother being a Scot) and damn proud of that too

I haven't heard anyone crying about your runners, gymnasts, shot-putters, archers, cyclists or anything else performing under the British flag - you just quite simply can't stand the thought of Wales having one or two players in the squad.

Onto the shirt - why are all images blocked by his arm? Must be a proto-type, he's blocking the main image on the shirt.
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0 # Guest 2011-11-01 10:16
Im also going to pass up on bickering here, being that im American, i have no place in this thread, but I would like to say that this kit is NOT a good looking kit. I dont see how people actually think that this kit is attractive. Its skin tight and the white and red combo just doesnt look right. Love the shadow printing but they could've done without it on the sleeves.
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+3 # Guest 2011-11-01 18:35
The problem here is politics, namely both the (English) FA and FIFA. I can understand why some people are up in arms over this.

It is well-documented about Blatter and his penchant for moving the goalposts (no pun intended), saying one thing about the home nations' status and on the next breath say something contradictory. However who's to say his successor (whoever that may be) gets elected into office because one of his mandates would be to assimilate the home nations into one, and in turn dissolve the IFAB and give FIFA the full power of the laws of the game? This possibility is a very real one, and this Team GB sets a dangerous precedent in the eyes of the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish FA's. The English FA haven't voiced opposition as, in the effect of an assimilated UK-wide football governing body, they would be the de facto association, so they'd have nothing to lose, whilst reducing the other three nations to parish council style "local FA's". It would also solve their years-long "who to play on the left wing?" problem - how convenient.

I just hope this Olympics circus passes over and we all carry on as normal without any political meddling.
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0 # Guest 2011-11-02 08:40
Quoting !:
The problem here is politics, namely both the (English) FA and FIFA. I can understand why some people are up in arms over this.

It is well-documented about Blatter and his penchant for moving the goalposts (no pun intended), saying one thing about the home nations' status and on the next breath say something contradictory. However who's to say his successor (whoever that may be) gets elected into office because one of his mandates would be to assimilate the home nations into one, and in turn dissolve the IFAB and give FIFA the full power of the laws of the game? This possibility is a very real one, and this Team GB sets a dangerous precedent in the eyes of the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish FA's. The English FA haven't voiced opposition as, in the effect of an assimilated UK-wide football governing body, they would be the de facto association, so they'd have nothing to lose, whilst reducing the other three nations to parish council style "local FA's". It would also solve their years-long "who to play on the left wing?" problem - how convenient.

I just hope this Olympics circus passes over and we all carry on as normal without any political meddling.


I see your point but it has to be asked - how would FIFA even given 'control' be allowed to select 3 nations and group them together just because politically we are 'also' Britain? What purpose would it solve? Aside from the Babbling Blatter - I cannot see anyone who would be aided by forcing England, Scotland and Wales to unite as Great Britain (and will people learn that Northern Ireland is part of the UK not part of Great Britain). Who's mandate would be selected rather than opposed by this idea? Ridding football of Scotland (arguably where the game was born) England (okay world cup winner once) but also home to the games greatest league and Wales - a proud sporting nation if nothing else of note football wise - would, in my eyes, not be a pitch to leave the FIFA election comities watering at the mouth.

It's simple - Blatter writes the agreement that the nations will not be merged into a contract - and for the period of that time all is okay. It's not as fragile as you lot make out. Scare-mongering has done all this - not real risk.
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+3 # Guest 2011-11-03 21:27
Even if Blatter insists on maintaining the status quo, it isn't a watertight assurance that the special statute will be locked down permanently. However his recent announcement of major changes in FIFA after the recent corruption scandal could indirectly make this statute a deal letter. For the cynics out there, the English FA's doomed attempt to postpone the presidential election was one possible clincher for the reform. You only had to listen to what the Argentinian FA president (Grondona) had to say after the elections to get an idea of what people think of the home nations' power in the game. He obviously fell for the misconception that England and the UK were the same thing (he obviously failed to realise that Wales and Northern Ireland voted against postponing the election).

Moving swiftly on, one of the task forces set by Blatter to see through the reforms will concentrate on FIFA's statutes and will be chaired by Theo Zwanziger (president of the German FA and member of the FIFA executive committee). Now for me, he is the real threat, not just because he has openly criticised IFAB and the home nations' involvement in the rules of the game and believes it is wrong, but it has been rumoured that he doesn't agree with the home nations having a FIFA vice-presidency. And with Blatter retiring in 2015, Zwanziger has been mooted as a possible successor. He could very easily be that person who puts the assimilation of the home nations in his presidential manifesto, and, given that FIFA is run as a democracy and everyone has a vote.

Lest we forget, this idea for a UK football team to be mandatory for competing in the Olympic games was a FIFA decision. They did not state if this was a one-off or was for all future Olympiad. Combined with the opinions of some FIFA executive committee members, this isn't scaremongering we are hearing.
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0 # Guest 2011-11-10 08:58
Quoting !:
Even if Blatter insists on maintaining the status quo, it isn't a watertight assurance that the special statute will be locked down permanently. However his recent announcement of major changes in FIFA after the recent corruption scandal could indirectly make this statute a deal letter. For the cynics out there, the English FA's doomed attempt to postpone the presidential election was one possible clincher for the reform. You only had to listen to what the Argentinian FA president (Grondona) had to say after the elections to get an idea of what people think of the home nations' power in the game. He obviously fell for the misconception that England and the UK were the same thing (he obviously failed to realise that Wales and Northern Ireland voted against postponing the election).

Moving swiftly on, one of the task forces set by Blatter to see through the reforms will concentrate on FIFA's statutes and will be chaired by Theo Zwanziger (president of the German FA and member of the FIFA executive committee). Now for me, he is the real threat, not just because he has openly criticised IFAB and the home nations' involvement in the rules of the game and believes it is wrong, but it has been rumoured that he doesn't agree with the home nations having a FIFA vice-presidency. And with Blatter retiring in 2015, Zwanziger has been mooted as a possible successor. He could very easily be that person who puts the assimilation of the home nations in his presidential manifesto, and, given that FIFA is run as a democracy and everyone has a vote.

Lest we forget, this idea for a UK football team to be mandatory for competing in the Olympic games was a FIFA decision. They did not state if this was a one-off or was for all future Olympiad. Combined with the opinions of some FIFA executive committee members, this isn't scaremongering we are hearing.


But is Zwanziger (or anyone else for that matter) not able to force through a unification for home nations anyway? If so - what difference does it make if we play in the Olympics? I actually don't know. But are these people really going to take our participation as move to proceed with such plans? I guess the point is this: If we don't play as GB in London - does it keep the wolf from the door? If not - what's the point being anti-GB for Olympics?
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-9 # Guest 2011-11-02 13:02
Hi everyone,
Have read all the comments above and decided to clear this issue up once and for all:
"You are" = "you're"
"Could of" should be "could have".

If you're going to use the English language to debate what should be good and proper for the Isles that use that language, maybe you should use it properly.

Thanks.

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-4 # Guest 2011-11-02 20:37
BUQuoting Ter:
The Welsh should get a grip, Scotland has all the rights to complain... but Wales has been a part of England since the 13th century, has no prestige, no culture that hasn't been recently fabricated and no respect. Cardiff and Swansea (not to mention the ones lower down) can censored off out the English league if being connected to England is so utterly terrible (Berwick are in the Scottish leagues for logistical reasons, but if you want them out i'm sure it's not gonna make that much of a difference). It's like Celtic wanting to join the English league... you hate the English but when it fits you want to join the football league, get more per capita from the government and vote on English matters in the House of Commons.... NERH

Wats the fking point about arguing abot wales scotland ect and acually comment on the kkit ffs
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+1 # Guest 2011-11-03 21:30
Quoting GIS:
BUWats the fking point about arguing abot wales scotland ect and acually comment on the kkit ffs

I think its an awful kit if truth be told. Watermarks are so 90's! :lol:
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0 # Guest 2011-11-02 20:42
Quoting GIS:
BUWats the fking point about arguing abot wales scotland ect and acually comment on the kkit ffs

Wales hAv every wright to complain there r their own nation in rugby common wealth and so on so y do we have to be a (nation) in football. We have our own culture own ascent own language what more do u have 2 do 2 be independent its not just for the welsh its for the scots 2
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0 # Guest 2011-11-04 11:00
Thank you for that contribution, professor.
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-2 # Guest 2011-11-02 20:49
Quoting Twll tin bob Sais:
Wales has NEVER been a part of England

Come to Wales and see how much the English get welcomed. Nobody here likes the English, you steal our water, our coal, our jobs and our holiday homes and live in them for 2 weeks a f*cking year.

THAT IS HOW MUCH WE HATE YOU!

Thank u we got a welshmen here were r our own nation^^^^
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0 # Guest 2011-11-03 22:22
Quoting BEMa:
Thank u we got a welshmen here were r our own nation^^^^

Good to see another Cymro on board.

Fight the power!!!!! :D :D :D :D

SAESNEG MYND ADREF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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+4 # Guest 2011-11-03 11:31
Anti GB, anti team GB.

In no more than 3 decades the British Empire...or it´s remainings are history. More and more people within the GB are not feeling comfortable with being labelld british.

Referendum in Sctoland in....15-20 years and bye bye.
next will be Wales after that.

Face it, the UK/GB is a construction from ancient days and will not maintain. history changes
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-9 # Guest 2011-11-03 13:59
"Team GB" would win the world cup if they could.

Imagine England w/ Bale, Ramsey, and Ferguson.

Killer!
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+2 # Guest 2011-11-03 16:48
Wee boys dream of playing for their country in the world cup or european championships, i dont remember ever wanting to play in the olympics. There are too many sports that shouldnt be in the olympics which have greater seperate tournaments i.e. tennis(you want to win wimbledon or one of the other 3 tournaments).

Rugby is a good example with the lions however this is a totally different matter and there is no threat to the four nations independance(even a united ireland team).

I would certainly not want to do anything which threatens the future of n ireland, scotland, wales and england. Do you trust fifa and their dodgy dealings(englands world cup bid for example?? point proven)as they are dodgy as hell. They dont like the fact the 4 home nations have individual powers(even though ourselves and england started it all off internationally with the irish and welsh following later).

Football is very diferent to other sports i.e. athletics where the British team is and has always been an accepted team. I certainly wish all teh gb athletes good luck in the olympics but football is very different.
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-3 # Guest 2011-11-03 18:01
Couldn't agree more. I'm a Scot, who wants independence, but will also be supporting team GB at the olympics. We shouldn't be arguing about politics on this FOOTBALL SHIRT website. Still don't want Scotland to have anything to do with a team GB football team, but that's more because of the rivalry between the home nations.

Also think that the tournament is pointless. Just an excuse to get the likes of Messi, Neymar, and other class players to play in England/GB/UK. But many of tthe world class teams e.g. Spain, Holland and Germany, probably won't compete anyway (or will just put their U21's) because of the EUROs.
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0 # Guest 2011-11-04 11:07
I agree with your point about the nature of arguments, and I think in some ways I can accept that the people of Celtic nations will be a little hesitant to accept Team GB, because on the whole they're brainwashed into blaming all the ills of the world on England.

Not all English are wealthy enough to afford second homes. We don't all swan around the place decked out in morning suits & top hats, planning how we will next exploit our poor, defenseless neighbours. The biggest mistake here is confusing Westminster with the rest of England, particularly working class England. We're as much frustrated with their rule as you are.

The way some, particularly Taff above, go about arguing their case is just provocative and will only lead to these heated discussions. I can handle pro-Celtic talk (independence, etc.), but when it becomes anti-English talk, we've got every right to answer back.
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-2 # Guest 2011-11-04 12:12
why so paranoid? what the hell does cardiff and swansea playing at an english then? what, they've been baptised into an english team now huh?



BTW Ramsey posed for the jersey too. Hater gonna HATE. :D

http://www.soccerbible.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/general.2011.November/Ramsey_2D00_Team_2D00_GB.jpg
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-3 # Guest 2011-11-04 13:56
Wow! You Welsh boys really know how to have a good moan don't you?

How can the Welsh game be threatened? This is the ONLY chance ANY Welsh player will EVER have of competing in a major football tournament and your FA want to prevent it from happening? Unbelievable. These guys must be so proud to be Welsh!!!

This is a GREAT BRITAIN team. Not England. So players from ALL FOUR nations should be available for selection. How could it ever threaten the existence of Welsh football?

Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey are top quality players, but they're your only ones... give them a chance to perform on a bigger stage than the Welsh national side will ever have the opportunity to do!! Pathetic. Petty. Anti-English rubbish.

GREAT BRITAIN MATE. You're nothing with out... and neither are we to be honest!!!

As for the shirt... POINTLESS!! Why bother if this is not the shirt that is going to be worn by the players? Oh, and watch the Welsh boys moan when they run our wearing a WHITE AWAY shirt in the first game!!!!!!

Get over your petty, narrow-minded Welshness. Prats!!! :zzz
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+2 # Guest 2011-11-04 15:00
i always think of myself as welsh rather than british but i don't see the big problem with welsh/scottish/n irish players playing for team GB i mean we have GB teams in every other sport at the olympics so why not football as well? for me doesn't make sense to have team GB in every other sport during the tournament then separate teams for football
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-6 # Guest 2011-11-09 01:37
no porridge wog or sheep shagger teams should be in the english football setup.you want independence,well grow a pair and vote for it.and taff take your fucking teams back and put them in the what ever the welsh leagues are called.we'll also take the dvla jobs back to begin with.so fuck you,you sheep shagging bastard."ryan giggs is half man half sheep,half man half sheep half man half sheep.ryan giggs is half man half sheep.....and that's why he plays for wales"...is it boyo or baaa.....i forget.
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+1 # Guest 2011-11-15 11:30
Quoting shaun the brummie:
no porridge wog or sheep shagger teams should be in the english football setup.you want independence,well grow a pair and vote for it.and taff take your censoreding teams back and put them in the what ever the welsh leagues are called.we'll also take the dvla jobs back to begin with.so censored you,you sheep shagging bastard."ryan giggs is half man half sheep,half man half sheep half man half sheep.ryan giggs is half man half sheep.....and that's why he plays for wales"...is it boyo or baaa.....i forget.

Racist tosser
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0 # Guest 2011-11-09 04:00
We need to combine the best players of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and have a British team. The Union Jack is a much better looking flag than the England flag as well. Proud to be British!
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-5 # Guest 2011-11-09 04:33
Ya'll British muthaf***ers fighting over some stupid shit. All you guys gotta do is jus' join up for some meaningless games at the Olympics that you guys are hosting and you burntbacks are at each-others throats.

If North and South Korea, who aren't on speaking teams (if you haven't found out by now), can join up for the Olympics as a unified Korea then you guys need to grow some balls and do the same. Buncha gnarly-teethed pussies.

Ya'll muthaf***ers are gonna be the same damn country for the rest of the sports are your Olympics. Would it hurt for ya'll to join up for some damn soccer games?

BTW, the good ol' U S of A are gonna win hella medals up in the Olympic games. #1 bitches (as usual).
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0 # Guest 2011-11-09 04:36
Oh yeah one mo thing cuddies. That's a clean jersey by the way. Don't like 'em so skin tight but it's pretty dank lookin'. I like how the trademark three stripes are nowhere to be seen. I hope Adidas starts making more and more jerseys like this.
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+1 # Guest 2011-11-15 11:31
Quoting Yank E. Doodle:
Ya'll British muthaf***ers fighting over some stupid shit. All you guys gotta do is jus' join up for some meaningless games at the Olympics that you guys are hosting and you burntbacks are at each-others throats.

If North and South Korea, who aren't on speaking teams (if you haven't found out by now), can join up for the Olympics as a unified Korea then you guys need to grow some balls and do the same. Buncha gnarly-teethed pussies.

Ya'll muthaf***ers are gonna be the same damn country for the rest of the sports are your Olympics. Would it hurt for ya'll to join up for some damn soccer games?

BTW, the good ol' U S of A are gonna win hella medals up in the Olympic games. #1 censoredes (as usual).

What do you know? You're American, go back to that glorified rounders game called "baseball"...........
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0 # Guest 2011-11-10 13:16
Total crap at £52. Design is shite, Adidas have lost a lot of respect. Keep the national kits simple and classy. not shaded crap on it.
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0 # Guest 2011-11-10 21:58
Really nice shirt, but I have 2 remarks:

1) Why didn't they let Umbro, producers of the England, Ireland, Northern-Ireland and Wales shirt, produce this GB kit as well?

2) Of course it's a collecters item, but selling a shirt which will never be worn tastes a bit like a commercial rip-off.

But overaal it's a nice idea and a great looking shirt!
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-7 # Guest 2011-11-11 01:47
all you porridge wogs,sheep shaggers and paddies,haven't got the balls to vote for independence.pay your own way,and all those government jobs(DVLA..etc)would be brought back to england where the vast majority of vehicles are,as with most other things..you want a welsh identity well your fucking football teams should have their membership of english football revoked(voted out by all the other clubs).nothing illegal and nothing you sheep shaggers can do about it...and that is just the start..no more english taxes propping up the principality(not even a country)..kicked out of english cricket aswell...the more i think the better i feel......bring independence on...and why doesn't peter hain go to south africa and get into parliament there we english can't stand the c**t....
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+3 # Guest 2011-11-14 00:59
bOOhOO Shaun

"Porridge Wogs"

Wogs being racial epithet for Asian people? More people of Asian and African background in your precious England today than whites. You love that, don't you?

;-)
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+1 # Guest 2011-11-15 11:34
Quoting shaun the brummie:
all you porridge wogs,sheep shaggers and paddies,haven't got the balls to vote for independence.pay your own way,and all those government jobs(DVLA..etc)would be brought back to england where the vast majority of vehicles are,as with most other things..you want a welsh identity well your censoreding football teams should have their membership of english football revoked(voted out by all the other clubs).nothing illegal and nothing you sheep shaggers can do about it...and that is just the start..no more english taxes propping up the principality(not even a country)..kicked out of english cricket aswell...the more i think the better i feel......bring independence on...and why doesn't peter hain go to south africa and get into parliament there we english can't stand the c**t....

Its little wonder so many people show disdain for the English with people like you about. The word "scum" isn't good enough for you.
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0 # Guest 2012-03-08 13:30
Your comment makes you look like a fool, why don't you just accept that England isn't a white mans country the Asians help you fight the Germans so if it wasn't for the Asians you would be speaking German.
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0 # Guest 2011-11-11 17:19
team gb at old trafforrd :D
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-3 # Guest 2011-11-14 22:27
:D i wonder if the fa were to make all teams in english football reapply to be part of the english football setup,could they just turn around to the welsh clubs and say sorry you don't meet the requirements.and replace them with more deserving english teams......they should be thinking of this,so we can protect the english national team....and fuck the sheep shaggers up.......bliss
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+2 # Guest 2011-11-15 11:35
Quoting shaun the brummie:
:D i wonder if the fa were to make all teams in english football reapply to be part of the english football setup,could they just turn around to the welsh clubs and say sorry you don't meet the requirements.and replace them with more deserving english teams......they should be thinking of this,so we can protect the english national team....and censored the sheep shaggers up.......bliss

The English national team....... yes the most over-hyped team living on one past glory that they bang on about every 2 to 4 years. Never come close to winning anything since.

You really are a prick of the highest order
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-1 # Guest 2011-12-01 11:02
:D
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-1 # Guest 2011-12-01 11:06
entonces,como hacer una broma :-*
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-3 # Guest 2011-12-15 19:49
Seriously team GB would be much better than england by itself imagine if giggs player for england back in his day you guys might actually have more than 1 wc face it you all need each other
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-3 # Guest 2011-12-23 01:39
WELSH...at least we actually qualify for tournaments unlike...the celts(eire excluded).and when you gain independence,do you think your teams will be allowed to stay in english football and deny more deserving english teams of places.then you can look forward to playing rhyll,newport,llatentght..and the rest......and i'll PMSL..ryan giggs is half man half sheep and thats why he plays for wales......
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+1 # Guest 2012-02-18 18:38
i'm not going to be buying THAT in any hurry! :-x
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0 # Guest 2012-03-22 12:12
The actual kit has been shown on Twitter today, modelled by Fraizer Campbell - http://twitter.com/Pearcesport/status/182797662653915136/photo/1
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0 # Guest 2012-04-08 08:05
I'm glad I stayed out of THAT argument ;-)
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