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Dear all,

Just want to remind you to be careful if you buy something form ebay. This ebay sellers are actually one person. Strange that the feedback is 100%. If you look carefully at their shirts...hard to believe that they are really worn.

I bought the shirts once from them, and they attached a fake badge into the shirt. I send the shirt back and they said that they never achieved the shirts!!! They try to delay everything untiil it's too late to complain.

So if you have complaints to these sellers... please send the complaints to ebay or paypal. May be it works if we work together! These people disturb our hobby and they should be removed!

These are the names that I found:
aniello1940
ciclismosport1938

They come from Prato, they company name is New Trade.

Kind regards,
Angga

thanks for warning us

cheers. i've had a lot of problems with sellers in italy, in general.

look here

ds-footballmemorabilia

this is 100% a fake seller. he always sell top shirts from different clubs for low price...for example chelsea poppy shirts gone out for 100-200GBP and in the official auction more than 1000GBP..from 2009.

ds-footballmemorabilia is a well known fraud, god knows why people still keep buying from him. New collectors should really do more research before getting a shirt, there are just too many crooks around.

I must say I have had big problems with a particular Italian seller. I bought an alledged match shirt off a gentleman on ebay, and in the pics it all seemed fine, and from my research it all seemed fine, but when I received it the badge was falling off, was glued on, the umbro label was obviously fake (I had match worn shirts from that era so I had plenty to compare to), the whole thing was a really bad knock off, total scam. Got no where with him after tonnes of emails, got on to ebay and they said they would refund it once I sent it back after opening a dispute. Problem is the Italian postal service is sooo bad (corrupt) that ebay said it took too long so I lost the refund AND the shirt! And I know he got it back as he was selling it on facebook a few weeks later! The guy is Tony Condello and his ebay name is bijars and I am sure people have dealt with him and everything was fine, but for me it was terrible. He collects Juve shirts. This episode has meant I just stay away from Italian sellers, as there are so many horror stories from fellow collectors that its not worth the hassle anymore. Be warned...

Sorry for you

but this is the reason why I collect only england club shirts. There you can get great shirts direct from clubs or charity's with authentic proof.

Don't buy from Italian seller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But there are so many people they think...wow i got a match worn shirt for low price.....

I'm Italian and I apologize for the behaviour of some sellers from my country...but of course this doesn't mean that all the Italians are selling shit!
I belong to the Italian mws collectors forum and we do our best to discover these idiots and prevent others from buying fake stuff.
Anyway I can offer my help through email, if you are interested in a shirt which is sold by an Italian seller, please feel free to write me at vascomane@inwind.it and I'll do my best to help you.
Best regards.

I know everyone in Italy isnt bad, and have bought some shirts from there with no problem at all, but its the usual story, a few bad sellers ruin it for everyone.
Now I stick with trusted sellers who I regularly use, aswell as clubs / charities etc

Hi grom,
I bought something from Tony in the past, no problems with him but sometimes he disappears for days/weeks and he lacks in communication after he gets his money...by the way it sounds odd he sold some total fake shirt, but I believe in you of course and I' m sorry for this episode!

Thanks for the response folks. It is true that not all Italian match worn sellers are bad. I also bought serie A shirts from trustworthy sellers. However, several bad people could destroy the reputation of good sellers...

Is there any of you with bade experience with Italian sellers had problems with these sellers? Please put in claims by ebay and paypal... we need to unite to remove these people who make our hobby become sick. This is again my list of bad sellers:

aniello1940
ciclismosport1938

Regards,
Angga

A couple of words about aniello and ciclismosport...it's true that they claim to have worn stuff, but you can see from far away that they are a total fake! Among Italian collectors they are well known and we all make big laughs about their auctions, they are so clearly unreal that they are almost funny. It's more serious when a so called "reputable" seller/collector starts to sell fake stuff without giving refunds when someone complains.

To be honest there are a lot of sellers out there looking to take advantage of collectors, especially new ones in the hobby. It is not just in Italy. There is one guy, via2venezzia, in the US selling NASL shirts that are obvious made up shirts from old stock, simple research on the fantastic www.nasljerseys.com shows how different they are. Now he isnt doing anything wrong as he doesnt say they are match worn etc, so its buyer beware. It saddens me the amount of sellers who are selling made up shirts, now even older ones are becoming a target.

It is becoming harder to find genuine shirts, and if I locate something I like, the prices some people ask are way out of my budget. Moral of the story is do your research and deal with the good guys. But thats the thing with ebay, a lot of it can be luck, so if you take a chance on a shirt, you might get a gem.

Its great that good honest collectors stick together as its the only way to protect ourselves by keeping us all aware of the pitfalls.

speaking of which... in regards to the Copa del Rey Messi shirt that was just posted as a new thread...

Re:Barcelona MATCH WORN Copa del Rey Final MESSI #10 4 Minutes ago Karma: 0
www.footballshirtculture.com/forum/fsc-forum/player-shirts-for-sale-swap/known-fraudulent-ebay-sellers.html#7515

READ THIS!!!!!!

www.flickr.com/photos/onlythebestsoccershirts/page4/

On this link you can see both the 2 Ronaldo kits I attempted to purchase AS WELL AS the Messi kit that is the topic of this thread.

BEWARE OF THIS SELLER. I had to endure 2 separate PayPal claims to get my money back that I paid this person for 2 Ronaldo kits they "sold" me. You will find they constantly are changing their names on both eBay and this forum and have several user ID's.

Just want to warn anyone that does not want to go though the pain that is a month-long PayPal claims case.

in my years of selling shirts, i am most afraid of dealing with Italian and French buyers. majority of the transactions had problems.

either postal delay which led to buyers filing claims or items lost and me doing a refund.